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	<title>Comments on: For Those Who Care Where Evocative Expressions Were Stolen</title>
	<link>http://blog.booklistonline.com/2006/11/28/for-those-who-care-where-evocative-expressions-were-stolen/</link>
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		<title>By: Likely Stories &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Atoning for Appropriation</title>
		<link>http://blog.booklistonline.com/2006/11/28/for-those-who-care-where-evocative-expressions-were-stolen/#comment-27992</link>
		<dc:creator>Likely Stories &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Atoning for Appropriation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I recently wrote about plagiarism, then about the fuzzy line between homage and appropriation, two topics that seem to be in the air lately. Over at Slate, Jack Shafer weighs in on Ian McEwan&#8217;s appropriation ofÂ several passagesÂ from Lucilla Andrews&#8217; No Time for Romance (1977) for his best-sellingÂ Atonement (2001). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I recently wrote about plagiarism, then about the fuzzy line between homage and appropriation, two topics that seem to be in the air lately. Over at Slate, Jack Shafer weighs in on Ian McEwan&#8217;s appropriation ofÂ several passagesÂ from Lucilla Andrews&#8217; No Time for Romance (1977) for his best-sellingÂ Atonement (2001). [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: John Shannon</title>
		<link>http://blog.booklistonline.com/2006/11/28/for-those-who-care-where-evocative-expressions-were-stolen/#comment-23755</link>
		<dc:creator>John Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't mind so much breaking the flow, as I have a bit of a Brechtian mischief gene (There's a second footnote later on) but of course it could easily get out of hand. E.G. The Infinite Jest. 

It's possible to have mixed feelings about "appropriation," or, as the kids say now, "sampling."  Wasn't it Twain who said, "Bad writers borrow but good writers steal."

But, seriously, I was devastated by the controversy that emerged around Wallace Stegner's Angle of Repose.  It was one of my favorite books, an amazing picture of the harshness of the Western experience and what it did to people (right up there with My Antonia and Old Jules and Dalva), and to find it all based, allegedly, on uncredited diaries hurts.  There's recently been a brief tempest about acknowledgement pages in novels, which is just another aspect of the same question.  A bit of showing off masquerading as erudition--at least sometimes.  (Ahem...there are a lot of acknowledgments in The Dark Streets.)  

Ultimately, I think integrity has to rule--not stealing a thought from another writer without redigesting it, not poisoning the well of history by clearly signalling any changes from known reality, etc.   Nothing is simple, but it's a starting point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind so much breaking the flow, as I have a bit of a Brechtian mischief gene (There&#8217;s a second footnote later on) but of course it could easily get out of hand. E.G. The Infinite Jest. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible to have mixed feelings about &#8220;appropriation,&#8221; or, as the kids say now, &#8220;sampling.&#8221;  Wasn&#8217;t it Twain who said, &#8220;Bad writers borrow but good writers steal.&#8221;</p>
<p>But, seriously, I was devastated by the controversy that emerged around Wallace Stegner&#8217;s Angle of Repose.  It was one of my favorite books, an amazing picture of the harshness of the Western experience and what it did to people (right up there with My Antonia and Old Jules and Dalva), and to find it all based, allegedly, on uncredited diaries hurts.  There&#8217;s recently been a brief tempest about acknowledgement pages in novels, which is just another aspect of the same question.  A bit of showing off masquerading as erudition&#8211;at least sometimes.  (Ahem&#8230;there are a lot of acknowledgments in The Dark Streets.)  </p>
<p>Ultimately, I think integrity has to rule&#8211;not stealing a thought from another writer without redigesting it, not poisoning the well of history by clearly signalling any changes from known reality, etc.   Nothing is simple, but it&#8217;s a starting point.</p>
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		<title>By: Likely Stories &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Return to Form</title>
		<link>http://blog.booklistonline.com/2006/11/28/for-those-who-care-where-evocative-expressions-were-stolen/#comment-13933</link>
		<dc:creator>Likely Stories &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Return to Form</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 03:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.booklistonline.com/2006/11/28/for-those-who-care-where-evocative-expressions-were-stolen/#comment-13933</guid>
		<description>[...] John Shannon is one of my favorite crime writers. C. J. Box is another. Yesterday I read about half of the latest inÂ Box&#8217;s Joe Pickett series, Free Fire, and over lunch I made it to page 192. As much as I love reading, there are times whenÂ opening a book is about as exciting as picking up a shovel to dig a camp latrine. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] John Shannon is one of my favorite crime writers. C. J. Box is another. Yesterday I read about half of the latest inÂ Box&#8217;s Joe Pickett series, Free Fire, and over lunch I made it to page 192. As much as I love reading, there are times whenÂ opening a book is about as exciting as picking up a shovel to dig a camp latrine. [&#8230;]</p>
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